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metaphortunate son ([personal profile] metaphortunate) wrote2014-10-14 11:16 am

scenes that don't exist

Someone recently linked to Now You Have Dunnett, which is a great blog because I love Dorothy Dunnett and her language and her lightning-fast characterization but wow, do I not have the kind of intimate knowledge of Renaissance-era Scotland that you kind of need in order to keep track of what the fuck is going on. So when I read her first I want someone to help me remember who the Protector is and who are all these women named Mary and why the queen of Scotland is French and when someone says "Pinkie" the correct response is not "Pie" but "a shitload of people just died there" - or possibly "a shitload of people are about to die there", because I don't remember, and that's exactly the problem - and so on. And then I want someone to talk with about how great that shit was we just read, and the blogger is doing that as well, so that's fun too.

So it's got me rereading Game of Kings, perhaps a little more fruitfully this time because 1) I've read it before, and it's actually more fun when you know what's really going on, and 2) the blog and its helpful reminders. You know what's weird, though? I want fic I want about this book. This is quite unusual for me, normally I get into fic by finding writers I like, canon sort of optional, rather than by wanting fic for a particular canon. And I haven't been reading much fic lately - and I've basically been reading no sexy fic at all. And yet, I'm reading Game of Kings, and there are two fics that I kind of want to read now, and they're both sex scenes.

1) Agnes Herries' wedding night with John Maxwell
Eeeeh, starting off creepy unfortunately, because the poor girl was 14 when she got married. But the thing is, these are historical characters. Not, like, characters in Historical Ages where everyone knows girls got married as zygotes, and what everyone knows is usually wrong: actual people in history whose dates were recorded. So that's my excuse, and presumably Dunnett's. But I don't insist on sticking to the canon or the history; the age isn't the key, anyone could age her up if they liked, only to the point that she's still Dunnett's ugly, vital Agnes, with a strong personality of her own and a head full of romantic daydreams; not having quite reached the bitterness that she was on her way to developing.

What I'd like to see is fun, loud, dreamy, ugly Agnes, well intelligent enough to know that her land is what the men want, not her self - canonically, she has "a face like a pound of candles on a hot day" - going to her wedding night with a man who has, more or less, sent her extravagant poetry and brought her a perfect rose and praised all those characteristics of a heroine of romance that she knows, somewhere deep in her squirrely little heart, that she hasn't got. But that she wants to marry him for anyway.

And John, who Sybilla says, and if you can't believe Sybilla who can you believe, is "clever enough - and kind enough - to preserve the fantasy, or at least let her down pretty lightly." But who's not interested in playing up the fantasy as Francis might be: when Francis is writing his love letters for him, John warns him to "curb your mad, antic mind, I beg you. I've no heart to spend myself sustaining what you are creating for me."

So, what do they say to each other, what do they do with each other that night? A girl marrying a man dressed like a dream and a man in a poorly-fitting dream costume marrying a girl whom he believes will be "an excellent wife" if he treats her right - in addition to all her money? And there is evidence that they get it right. After the marriage, when Francis is captured, John visibly takes no hand in the matter, but it's pretty clear that he sends Agnes to help him escape; not something he would do unless he trusted her. And Agnes is "jubilant" to have accomplished her task; she seems happy and competent, well settled into her new life. Transformed, as Dunnett says, by "the dignities of happiness."

So it went well somehow. But how did it go?

2) Will Scott and Francis Crawford's third, non-canon visit to the Ostrich
Well, and this is the most obvious, the one everyone wants. Richard ships it! Everyone ships it! The second time Francis takes Will to the Ostrich, he allows Will to think that he's taking him to a room upstairs to fuck him. Will's reaction: "When Will Scott got to his feet, his heartbeats were behaving oddly, but he was not slow in following the Master…" Of course, when Will enters the room he discovers that Francis has actually brought him upstairs to meet the John Maxwell above mentioned, and has allowed Will to think otherwise, probably as part of a general policy of always keeping him off balance, and also for his own private amusement.

So obviously, if Francis and Will ever went back to the Ostrich, during the offscreen time before the gang got disbanded, Will would be a little smarter this time, looking for the connection to be made, the guy to be met or captured, the contraband or message to be passed or intercepted or overheard. Francis would take him to an empty room and Will would be wisely expecting the message under the water pitcher, or the contact hiding outside on the windowsill, or something. He wouldn't believe the cover story was the only story until Francis pushed him down on the bed.

…

Better yet, what if there was sex and some kind of ridiculous triple-dealing spy business. You know there would be. Man, somebody write this.

AND DON'T TELL ME ABOUT YULETIDE I DON'T WRITE FICTION SO I CAN'T TRADE.
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[personal profile] cofax7 2014-10-14 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
That was me who linked it!

And you are right, those two stories would be awesome.
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[personal profile] submarine_bells 2014-10-14 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
That's a wonderful blog you've linked to! Thanks for sharing it. I too love the Lymond books. I find them baffling and delightful in almost equal parts (not unlike the eponymous character) and I think I'm going to very much enjoy following along with the author of that blog as he re-reads Dunnett's masterpiece.
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[personal profile] submarine_bells 2014-10-14 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh yes, the second time through was certainly a more enlightening experience! But so much of Dunnett's writing could use footnotes. The problem with footnotes, of course, is that they destroy the pacing. It's a hard decision, isn't it? Just dance through all the glittering persiflage, touching briefly on the comprehensible bits and getting a sense of what's going on without understanding all the literary references and the deeper links; or read it slowly with a copy of "The Compleat Guide to Dorothy Dunnett's Brane, Yes Really, Now With Extra Footnotes" and thus get to enjoy all the witty asides and period literary references, but lose the flow.

Upon ridiculosity: yes, Lymond is OTT Ridiculous. So is Sorkin's dialogue in West Wing. People really don't speak like that. But who the hell cares? It's so much fun anyway. :-)
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[personal profile] skygiants 2014-10-14 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Aw, I'd forgotten about Agnes! I would totally read that fic. (Though I'm not sure I do believe Sybilla about everything; like, for a woman who is generally deemed astoundingly clever and warm and wise, she does make some FAIRLY POOR INTERPERSONAL CHOICES.)
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[personal profile] liseuse 2014-10-15 10:14 am (UTC)(link)
I would totally read both of those fics, and actually I think my text messages to [personal profile] wildestranger when I was first reading Lymond were basically the second one. Oh, Will. Forever on the hilarious back foot where Francis is concerned.

I am bookmarking that blog for next year when I have a Lymond re-read planned. I know a relatively large amount about Renaissance Scotland, but keeping people straight is not my forte so it will be handy to have reminders - especially when you met them four books ago and many sharks have leaped many things since then.
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[personal profile] badgerbag 2014-10-25 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
OK, you have me determined to try to read Dunnett again. Maybe this time I won't bounce off. I completely believe I would love these books if I could get into the mindset. Hmmmm!