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metaphortunate son ([personal profile] metaphortunate) wrote2014-04-08 09:59 pm

set the captives free

I went to the pet store today to buy fish food for the fish in the day care aquarium.

I nearly threw up. There were like a million catatonic bettas there, nearly motionless in their three quarters of a cup of water which is all they give them. There was one chinchilla all alone which no one will ever buy because it was all grown. So many animals in tiny little boxes.

I know, I know, I eat animals. But the truth is that I’d be moving towards vegan if that wouldn’t end up with me getting divorced. But also true is that me being vegan on my own, like even if I were a real vegan rather than, y’know, making gestures in that direction which is what I would even have the energy for, wouldn’t make a damn bit of difference to the amount of animal suffering in the world, not a drop in the ocean’s worth. Not even to the animal suffering caused by humans, which, can you compare it to the amount of animal suffering caused by other animals?

Henry Mitchell (on whom more anon) writes, “Nature is endlessly ingenious and, of course, unspeakably vicious and barbaric. Any complaints should be sent not to me but to the designer of the universe. I never minded the fact that the whole system rests essentially on death, and who eats whom, but surely a kinder, gentler means of death could have been devised for bugs, bunnies, and so forth. The only good thing about the system is that from time to time nature is beautiful beyond dreaming, and nothing can be done about it.”

I mind. I mind, I don’t know why. Probably I was raised wrong without enough contact with death. Probably we should be taking the Junebug, and Rocket when he is old enough, to tour an abattoir and teach them to kill chickens and butcher cattle. It’s too late for me, I mind. And nothing can be done about it. Sometimes it seems to me that the definition of life is just matter having gained the capacity to suffer. I used to think it was sad that as far as we know there is only life on this one tiny planet in the universe, and the rest of the whole thing will have no one to appreciate it, ever. The more I think of it, the more I think of the universe as an amazing system of beauty infested with one bit of perverse filth in one tiny corner. At least it is on its way to wiping itself out. Let matter set itself free.
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[personal profile] loligo 2014-04-09 12:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't even look at the bettas, every time I go in there to buy food for my cats. How can people not see how horrifying that is?

I've had to dramatically up my meat intake recently for health reasons, after being nearly vegetarian for 15 years. I'm coping with it. It actually helps that we're in a rural college town, so there are plenty of people interested in free-range/grass-fed meats and plenty of farmland nearby to raise them on. So I get my eggs and chicken from Sarah & Jason and my beef from Josh, and I can take a little drive out of town any time I want to go visit my future dinner. I can truly say that they are happy, healthy animals... until I eat them.
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[personal profile] amaebi 2014-04-09 01:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Have you read The Sixth Extinction?

Or the Dr Dolittle novel in which the Doctor and Jip and many other animals break and enter a Very Bad Pet Shop and free the animals?

I grew up in [personal profile] loligo's small university town. I eat non-human animals, and make sure Chun Woo knows he eats animals. I wouldn't object to being eaten by animals if I had a decent life first and was killed humanely, so that's what I try for in animals I eat.* I've told Chun Woo he is and will be making choices about eating non-human animals, but that it's important he know that's what he's doing. He is currently the most carnivorous member of the family-- and also growing like Whoa.

* I am imperfect.
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[personal profile] norah 2014-04-09 02:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I love your conclusion. It's a hard conclusion to reconcile with being a parent, but I love it anyway.

And yes, I would eat SO MUCH LESS MEAT if I weren't married to a committed carnivore. R has recently been complaining about people "hurting nature" (chopping down Xmas trees, hunting animals) and we are talking about creature comforts and ethical tradeoffs a lot. Though you're right, the individual's impact is so tiny it almost seems negligible.
Edited 2014-04-09 14:51 (UTC)
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[personal profile] cyprinella 2014-04-09 02:53 pm (UTC)(link)
One of our area fish stores would put their bettas in the sales tanks with other fish (singly) which could have it's own issues if the other fish were nippers but at least they got to be fish. Sadly, this was one of them that went out of business.

I think about the only fish more poorly treated than bettas are goldfish. It's really frustrating as a fish lover. I've received shipped fish and gone to auctions where the fish for sale are packaged similarly (although usually in much bigger containers, but still about 1/3 water, 2/3 air because having sufficient oxygen is most important) and while it is stressful for them, it's also temporary. The big problem is the people that think that this is how bettas should live long term. I probably won't keep a betta in anything smaller than a 10 gallon tank anymore. they just have so much more personality and verve in a larger environment. Yeah, their home conditions are a lot different than stream and pond fish, but for all that the rice paddies they're from are shallow, they're also HUGE. It makes a significant difference.
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[personal profile] brownbetty 2014-04-09 04:53 pm (UTC)(link)
My concession to carnivorism is to eat better meat, less often, which is a trade-off carnivores around me can appreciate: like, I only eat meat once a week, but it is free-range, organic meat! The cost is about even, but I feel like I come out ahead, you know, ecologically. (Probably also taste-wise, but that is harder to evaluate.)

I know what you mean, but for me it's about capitalism: UGH, CAPITALISM, YOU MAKE EVERYTHING TERRIBLE AND YET I AM ENMESHED AND CONTRIBUTING.
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[personal profile] rosefox 2014-04-10 06:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Refusing to possess capital still won't disentangle you from the capitalist system, unfortunately. It'll just make you really cold and hungry. :(