adding soothing oil to the flames

[metaphortunate]

Barrayaran feminist talks to Dono Vorrutyer.

Comments

[wild_irises]

*heh* I thought I was clicking a link to fanfic.

I think it's a little more like Barrayaran feminist talks to visitor from Beta Colony, though.

[phi]

I thought I was too! Now I want to read that fanfic

[rosefox]

I am so full of fury at some of the comments in that thread. At least Rose L. and Alex are being strong and sensible.

[kore]

I really liked what you said, too - I think those points about checking our assumptions and the onus being on the assumer, not the other person, are important ones.

[rosefox]

Thank you!

[lightgetsin]

Jo Walton what the hell?

...Among other things. But Jo Walton, what the hell.

And also -- no, nope. I'm just gonna stop scrolling now before I read more.

[pantryslut]

Good plan.

[kore]

It worries me generally when people want to leave the female box, because then when they do anything that's one more thing a woman didn't do, in a world that's only too happy to provide examples that women can't do stuff.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh.

But externally, people are going to look at you and put you in categories and visible gender and skin colour are going to be right up there in how they do that because people are wired that way.

Christ. I do think there's racism and sexism and a shitload of prejudice pretty much in the very air we breathe because it's such a fucked-up society, but for Godsakes, it's not like how the swallows find their way to Capistrano, or whatever.

[kore]

That is a pretty amazing poem.

That is also a pretty amazing response by JW there, in the opposite non-awesome direction. Jesus.

[kore]

Heh, I read it more as "Gethenian encounters Shere Hite." Or something like that.

[karenhealey]

When people want to leave the female box?

I want to be elegantly scornful of both concept and phrasing but I'm just stuck with WHAT.

[loligo]

The thing is, I can sympathize with part of what Jo is saying. I often do feel a genuine sense of grief, loss, and (yes) rejection when an awesome female-appearing person comes out as trans or genderqueer. But those feelings are *my problem* to deal with. It's not fair for me to make them somebody else's problem, and I really try not to. (In service of which, I will drop the subject now.)

[brownbetty]

Oh, you're to blame for my having that fuckery open in a tab. I'd lost track of how I came to have it open, and was rather baffled.

[ide_cyan]

I wish more people read Christine Delphy's materialist analysis of gender.