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metaphortunate son ([personal profile] metaphortunate) wrote2012-04-12 08:25 pm

self-negating descriptions

[personal profile] brownbetty asks if there is a name for things you cannot say about yourself without inherently conveying the idea that they are not true. For example, "I'm a classy guy" = you are not a classy guy.

I find this sort of thing endlessly fascinating, as I am fascinated by things which cannot be communicated by saying them! Another example is "Please only do [x] if it is absolutely vital." If you say that, everyone who wants to do [x] will decide it is important enough and will do [x]. If you want people to only do [x] if it is absolutely vital, say "No one can do [x]." People for whom it is vital will do it anyway, because they have no choice.
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[personal profile] brooksmoses 2012-04-13 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
Indeed.

Does, "Don't think of a pink elephant in toe shoes" count as an example?

[personal profile] vera_l 2012-04-14 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
"I am very suave."
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[personal profile] dr_memory 2012-04-15 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
"I'm color-blind!" :-b
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[personal profile] dr_memory 2012-04-15 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
(Er, when said in re race issues. I am willing to allow, grudgingly, that red-green colorblindness does actually exist. :)

[personal profile] zond7 2012-04-17 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
Not quite the same either, but I enjoy statements that mean the exact opposite when used, such as "With all due respect", and "Without wanting to be rude".

When anyone uses ROFL I also always imagine them just slightly snorting while wearing the Dead Eyes of The Person In Front of A Screen. It's weirdly even more endearing than ... I dunno, them having the seizure that they are apparently vouching for.