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metaphortunate son ([personal profile] metaphortunate) wrote2015-07-01 04:02 pm

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You know, another thing about Fury Road:
The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth.
- Niels Bohr
When Nux is discovered on the war rig, Furiosa roars with anger and lunges to shank him. But she can't; the Wives won't let her. They agreed, Splendid reminds her: no unnecessary killing! They throw him out of the rig instead. And Furiosa's not wrong. He was there to stab her in the back and return the Wives to a life of slavery and rape. They throw him out; and he goes back to Immortan Joe, helps his army find the war rig, and comes back re-armed to try again.

But the Wives aren't wrong, either. It would be quite easy for the movie to endorse the opinion that the Wives are being foolishly sentimental, wanting to avoid killing, because they're not hardened to the necessities of the post-apocalyptic land like Furiosa and the Vuvalini are. Furiosa says it: oh, you got shot, boo hoo, out here everything hurts. The Keeper of the Seeds cheerfully tells the Dag, "Killed everyone I ever met out here." And when the Dag says, "Thought somehow you girls were above all that," how much do I love the Keeper's wry smile, her head tilt that says silently and eloquently that if they were above all that they'd be six feet under all that by now. She doesn't have to say it. I can't get over this movie's parsimonious elegance; it's clear, no words wasted.

But what the characters say isn't necessarily what the movie says. And it's also clear that while the movie supports the Vuvalini in their casual murder; it also supports the Wives in their mercy, in their humanity, in their goal to be above all that. Because what the movie tells us is that the Wives were quite right to spare Nux. Nux is the one who gets the war rig unstuck out of the mud. Nux gives everything in the end to stop Joe's raging son and blow the rig and block pursuit and give them the chance to get home free. Generosity and mercy directly make our heroines' triumph possible.

Furiosa deals violence and death to rescue and protect the Wives. But then Angharad protects her with the physical fact of her vulnerability: she puts her body between Furiosa and a gun, she literally saves Furiosa with the power of life. The power of death and the power of life are explicitly opposed: the Dag says that Angharad used to call bullets "antiseed"; Cheedo explains, "Plant one and watch something die." So, Furiosa and Max plant bullets and watch the flowering of explosions. And without that, none of our heroines would survive. But the future is going to be the seeds planted by the Dag.

The Vuvalini, who live by violence, die by violence. The Keeper of the Seeds has never been able to successfully plant her seeds. The Dag, who rejects killing, is the one who can finally take the seeds to the place where they will grow. There is a generational thing going on here!
I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy. My sons ought to study mathematics and philosophy, geography, natural history, naval architecture, navigation, commerce, and agriculture, in order to give their children a right to study painting, poetry, music, architecture, statuary, tapestry, and porcelain.
- John Adams
Furiosa's politics and war make it possible for the Wives to move forward with philosophy and agriculture. Neither of them are wrong. And how much do I love this movie about generations of women disagreeing with each other and caring for each other? My god, compare the way Charlize Theron's character feels about younger women in this movie vs. Snow White and the Huntsman. Why can't we see a million more stories like this one?

No, instead, of course, they made a comic book prequel and got rid of every single goddamn good thing about the movie. I knew they would. There's going to be a tie-in game and I bet there's no playable female characters in it. Let us never speak of these things again. Let's just enjoy every beautiful facet of the film itself.
recessional: the Splendid Angharad uses her body to shield Imperator Furiosa, supported/held by Toast the Knowing, Mad Max: Fury Road (film; a dragon for a mother)

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[personal profile] recessional 2015-07-01 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Allll of this. All of it. *hugs it*
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[personal profile] ironed_orchid 2015-07-02 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
I saw the Mary Sue thing on the comic and closed the tab, preferring to believe that the comic didn't exist than to read more about what it contained.
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[personal profile] kore 2015-07-02 04:46 am (UTC)(link)
I was gonna buy the comic and then saw the reviews. SIGH. But the movie -- !!!
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[personal profile] submarine_bells 2015-07-02 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
I love your media analysis posts. Never stop writing this stuff, mmmkay?

(Well, you can if you want to. But I do enjoy stuff like this, and you have a knack for drawing out details and comparisons and just general Deep Thots that never fails to delight me when I read your "thoughts about thus-and-such" type posts. :-)

Also... MMFR FTW, bigtime! I can't remember the last time I was this totally pumped about a movie. Hey Hollywood, more movies like this, plzthx!
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[personal profile] submarine_bells 2015-07-07 06:01 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it's kinda fractal that way. The closer you look, the more there is to see.

Fractal delight! It's a band name and an ice cream flavour. :-)
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[personal profile] kore 2015-07-02 04:45 am (UTC)(link)
Aww, this is beautiful.
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[personal profile] firecat 2015-07-02 05:47 am (UTC)(link)
Now you've done it, I'm about to post my second Mad Max: Fury Road link dump.
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[personal profile] azurelunatic 2015-07-02 06:23 am (UTC)(link)
*soaks in this meta for a while*
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[personal profile] lederhosen 2015-07-02 01:29 pm (UTC)(link)
As noted on Twitter:

- The name of the "Bullet Farm" also signals the seeds/anti-seeds idea.
- The consequences of sparing Nux remind me very much of Gandalf's "It was pity stayed Bilbo's hand" and what that foreshadows.

I loved almost everything in that film but it was Nux's arc that made me teary. He and his brothers are introduced pretty much as orcs, freakish violent creatures that you can kill without any qualms, and then the story twists that in a direction I wasn't expecting at all: he's just a kid who's been molded into something he wasn't really meant to be, and it's possible for him to escape it.

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[personal profile] lederhosen 2015-07-07 08:20 am (UTC)(link)
I had mixed feelings about Nux's ending. I was hoping he'd somehow escape the "only way to prove redemption is by heroic death" trope. Yes, it's what he wants, but from another viewpoint it's what he's been brainwashed to want. Maybe if he'd survived the movie he'd have discovered that painting or gardening or something was just as fulfilling as heroic suicide.

Still, even if he didn't completely escape the programming, he turned it around and made it serve a better cause than the one he'd been taught. And that last "witness me" was no less powerful for that ambivalency.
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[personal profile] lederhosen 2015-07-08 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Same reason why people reading romance into the movie makes me nauseous. I've got nothing against romance, but in this genre, I don't think it's possible to present heterosexual sex as anything other than a man's reward for heroics

...or Establish Sleazy Villain, yeah.

And, yeah, this all makes sense. But even if that was the only way to end it, even if he only lost a few weeks of life by it, it still got me right in the feels.
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[personal profile] umadoshi 2015-07-02 01:32 pm (UTC)(link)
This post is wonderful. *^^*
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[personal profile] starlady 2015-07-08 11:09 am (UTC)(link)
I just saw it again right before you posted this. And, AGREE.
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[personal profile] metanewsmods 2015-07-09 05:41 pm (UTC)(link)
May we link this on [community profile] metanews? We also post on LJ and Tumblr.